And Here We Go Again…

Te Kauhanganui are looking take the power back at their next meeting on August 28 when they gather to change the rules.

Well whaddya know, what do you think will happen?

Yeah, that’s right, Tuku’s stooges on the Te Arataura committee will do everything that they can possibly think of to have the meeting aborted with their dirty tricks just like they did in May and June.

They’ve done it before and They will try it again. We’ve come to expect no less.

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14 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Ata
    Aug 18, 2011 @ 17:57:01

    Well if it happens we wont be surprised I suppose; I always did say that we needed to make the rules again they weren’t our rules to start, so its something we needed to do from the start but we just realized that we needed to change them cause they were working against us not for us!!!!!!!!

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  2. ezekiel
    Aug 18, 2011 @ 23:26:50

    Not only are Tuku’s stooges trying to prevent the hui from happening, but his lackeys rahui (i know everything blabber mouth) and tom m (i know more than rahui) are doing all they can to control the peoples basic human rights, their efforts to out do one and other @ the koroneihana is weird, embarrassing and insulting. They continue to trample on the mana of the people and especially the hau kainga of Turangawaewae as if of right. I say to rahui & tom… crawl back under the rocks you came from and stay there, you are not worthy of our mana nor do you have the right to speak on our behalf, you speak only for yourselves and the crooks who’s paying you (with our money) FOOLS.

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  3. Suz
    Aug 23, 2011 @ 07:00:44

    Read all the recent blogs. Same news different day eh…if we put all the energy on this website into making a positive change to ourselves (Tainui Iwi), we will win regardless of who is at the helm. Start with truth and honesty to the person looking back at you in the mirror.

    And to balance the positive with a negative: We’re better than these words – maori openly demeaning themselves and each other for all the world to see – Hei kai maa ngaa hoariri!…Reckless!

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    • Tainui on the Web. Eraka's Blog
      Aug 26, 2011 @ 07:48:42

      Yep same news different day, the crooks and thieves on Te Arataura do the same disgusting things every month and we’ll report their every move.

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    • piraraka
      Aug 26, 2011 @ 11:27:07

      SUZ: do not please be a wanna – bee and an ignore-everything around you. unlearn that ‘learned helplessness’ – un learn the propaganda you have faced most of your live – live freely with thought to express – look at the BS created by te arataura – why should it not be publicised – no marae can discuss it at pokai – just nonsense is espoused by people who are nonsense themselves –

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  4. Hunnz
    Aug 23, 2011 @ 10:06:09

    Look we all know whats gonna happen here don’t we! Tuku will get kicked off Te Arataura then the King will appoint him as his rep on Te Arataura and then there’ll be no getting him off! We’ll have the Robert Mahuta and the kingitanga court situation again!

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    • piraraka
      Aug 26, 2011 @ 11:23:52

      Hunnz: agree: that is why the rules must be changed – remember they were changed in 2005 by late rahia mahuta and her daughter: that hoha awa was also involved – no wonder they are a mess – in 2005 the order of the objects was also changed – as were the words – to force people to be obliged to kiss the butt of the kingitanga reps – the little people will be forced to bow to this BS coercion and allow the dictatorship to continue – that is why the rule smust be changed and court action must follow —

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  5. Ezekiel
    Aug 25, 2011 @ 02:32:24

    Te Aratura committee members including their disqualified, delusional ex-chair are becoming desperate to present a united front as huge cracks begin to appear, they are now scrambling to gain support from anyone and everyone, their in-fighting is spilling out into the public and their paranoia & confusion is obvious for all to see. They have been spooked by the crown’s reluctance to proceed with future talks and the concerns expressed by the business sector towards their personal & very public spats leaving the proposed partnerships in jeapardy. Concerns were also expressed by certain influential individuals at the Iwi Leaders forum regarding Tuku’s directive to McLean preventing the elected Chair of Te Kauhanganui to attend the forum. We have much to lose if we allow this to continue. Marangai mai Waikato-Tainui, get behind your marae reps & make sure they represent your interests & not their own on Sunday. Put a stop to TeA’s blatant mis-representation & corrupt practices.

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    • Tainui on the Web. Eraka's Blog
      Aug 26, 2011 @ 07:51:36

      Cheers Ezekiel! You make some awesome contributions to this site!

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    • whanau observer
      Aug 27, 2011 @ 09:37:31

      Kia ora Ezekiel, having considered your commentary stirred me to offer a response. Lets take a step back in time to bring forward some valuable information.

      My understanding in regards to the decision judge Robinson arrived at in the employment matter for Mr Rau centred on and was contrary to Mr Rau’s contractual obligations of fidelity to his employer -Te kauhanganui.

      If your statement is factual that is; Te Arataura knowingly allowed Mr Morgan to direct and approve Mrs McClean CEO to exclude the chair of Te kauhanganui from attending the iwi Maori forum; is this in itself contrary to obligations of fidelity e.g. Mr Morgan, Te Arataura committe and Mrs McClean.

      With regards to the numbers game currently being played out by both forums; my understanding is that 65 marae were represented 58 had valid votes 5 were invalid 2 marae abstained?

      Here is a koha whanau to consider an offering to your marae representatives without having reference to the current constitution; a motion should be moved that all marae must vote on matters of priority to Te kauhanganui; abstentions are unacceptable!

      Any vote which is found to be invalid automatically puts the current motion back on the floor. When all votes are valid the motion is either carried or dismissed. It seems like a logical solution; my question to you is – can it be actioned in accordance with the current constitution?

      When we can add the voices of Waikato Tainui whanau ( Te Kauhanganui reps) alongside coal face business decisions we will start to correct and improve the way we want to do business with everyone else.

      Governments and the private sector prefer to deal with stable business platforms. For sometime now, our governance processes have been driven by talented individuals using formal business protocols. In this mix, whanau haved stepped up to the plate without formal business know-how. They have become drivers who have achieved good economic outcomes whilst detrimentally creating an environment of division amongst the greater whanau – along the way.

      Its your choice, my choice, our choice to participate and become part of the solutions. I must add I can no longer sit by and watch such public abuse of my Waikatotanga – I care to much about who we are – we are good decent people who want to see benefits/profits spread across our entire iwi…kia ora!

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  6. Ezekiel
    Aug 26, 2011 @ 02:02:06

    Funkwerks Brewery would like to propose a toast to Kingitanga, & to show how genuine they are, they have developed their very own brew called Maori King Ale, now that has to be a world first. Does anyone know of any other monarch who has a brew named after him/her?? How could they have known to bestow such honour & how appropriate. Most unfortunate that Tuku and Hori see it as insulting & degrading…aahh hello.

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  7. Ezekiel
    Aug 27, 2011 @ 19:04:41

    It is indeed factual that Tuku instructed Ms McLean to ensure Te Kauhanganui chair did not enter Hopuhopu thus preventing her access to the Iwi Leaders forum, citing that the forums are invitation only and simply, she was not invited. This once again implies that Te Kauhangaui does not have any authority in which to validate or formalise actions or dialogue initiated by Te Arataura. This is absolutely unconstitutional, outrageous and appalling. It also implicates Ms McLean to acting inappropriately and unprofessionally. What this tell us is that Tuku is not afraid to test the rules beyond his authority. He has much to lose if not reigned in & stopped, just as we have much to lose if he is allowed to continue. He/they must not be allowed to continue this charade of deceit, exclusion, impropriety and disorder. Te Kauhanganui must take the power back or we are ‘f…….’

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  8. Ata
    Aug 30, 2011 @ 09:36:46

    You know I honestly dont know why we have a tribal committee cause what is said in Te kauhanganui was suppose to stay in Te Kauhanganui!!! isnt that what we said Te Kauhanganui???? while we are try to figure that 1 out how many times have we said that same phrase I know I lost count but yet we still talk about it. I have always said and I will always maintain that yes we need to changed the rules let make them our rules then maybe we as a Tribe IWI can start taking blame for what we are doing. Last off I hope everybody having a good day and it Poukai Time at Whatapaka see yous all there…
    Hoi Ano

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  9. Ezekiel
    Aug 31, 2011 @ 01:56:35

    Unfortunately, TKI & Te A members have total disregard for the ruling forbidding them speaking to the media, e.g. Tom Roa, he appears obsessed with the media spotlight, trying to give the impression he is an intellectual expressing an intellectual opinion….well excuse me!! as far as Im concerned his opinions do not have any value, he had his chance at sorting things out while chair of TKI but caved in to pressure, now he wants back in…I dont think so. None of the former chairs (all men by the way) had the courage or intellect to seek accountability or transparency from Te Arataura during their term, because they were far too busy focusing on their own inerests.

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